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Pentagon, World's Biggest Fossil Fuel User, Shops for Biofuels

Bloomberg -- Gevo Inc. (GEVO), Syntroleum Corp. and Solazyme Inc. (SZYM) may be among a “small set” of biofuel producers vying for supply contracts from the U.S. Defense Department, the world’s largest consumer of fossil fuels, analysts said.

The agency is preparing to announce about five initial grants to companies making fuels from renewable materials to power jet fighters, battleships and other vehicles. The decision, which according to application documents is due “on or about” today, may come Oct. 22, Laura Ortiz, the program’s agreements negotiator, said in an Oct. 17 interview.

The military bought about 130 million barrels of jet fuel, diesel and other petroleum products in fiscal 2011, and is seeking to replace as much as half with renewable biofuels. Winning one of the small initial grants

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carranco Champion Author Georgia Posts:1,027 Points:269,015 Joined:Dec 2008	Message Posted: Oct 22, 2012 11:55:47 PM Ignore carranco Report Abuse Cancel that Fraudbama order.
oilfreak All-Star Author Houston Posts:687 Points:36,885 Joined:Oct 2012	Message Posted: Oct 22, 2012 5:01:24 PM Ignore oilfreak Report Abuse If the DOD is looking for more fossil fuels, then it's time to drill more of our oil here TODAY.
PDQBlues Champion Author San Diego Posts:7,069 Points:1,447,350 Joined:Jan 2009	Message Posted: Oct 22, 2012 4:17:15 PM Ignore PDQBlues Report Abuse Van_Halen: They shop for biofuels are Tax Payer expense! They need to buy the cheapest fuel no matter if its fossil or not! During a war, that may not be an option if alternatives to fossil fuels are not developed. In every battle of modern warfare, the rate-limiting step/bottleneck has always been the fuel and getting it to the front lines. If US and her troops are being blocked from getting oil, the US will loose the battle. If these alternatives are developed, the battle could still be fought and won. So if short term costs are of more concern for you then long term national security, you have my pity.
Van_Halen Champion Author Atlanta Posts:2,850 Points:641,230 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Oct 22, 2012 3:03:13 PM Ignore Van_Halen Report Abuse . They shop for biofuels are Tax Payer expense! They need to buy the cheapest fuel no matter if its fossil or not!
fuel2use Champion Author Seattle Posts:3,483 Points:732,350 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Oct 22, 2012 3:02:47 PM Ignore fuel2use Report Abuse They drive a lot of technology.
mitt4prez Champion Author Tacoma Posts:1,742 Points:1,245,225 Joined:Nov 2007	Message Posted: Oct 22, 2012 12:14:48 PM Ignore mitt4prez Report Abuse Hey, the politically connected corporation has to get a return doesn't it? Otherwise why contribute all that dough to political campaigns?
doggod Champion Author Anchorage Posts:2,843 Points:740,385 Joined:May 2009	Message Posted: Oct 22, 2012 12:08:34 PM Ignore doggod Report Abuse Of course all these biofuels will cost an arm and a leg, but why should they care? It's other people's money! Whee!
Jeff4U Champion Author Atlanta Posts:8,749 Points:1,852,145 Joined:Nov 2004	Message Posted: Oct 22, 2012 11:53:30 AM Ignore Jeff4U Report Abuse OPEC is smiling ear to ear, thanks to our U.S. military.
elhefe2003 Sophomore Author New Orleans Posts:136 Points:27,580 Joined:Oct 2012	Message Posted: Oct 22, 2012 10:22:13 AM Ignore elhefe2003 Report Abuse ok
ss70 Champion Author Detroit Posts:9,653 Points:1,869,125 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Oct 22, 2012 10:17:47 AM Ignore ss70 Report Abuse Pentagon would not mind spending lots of money as it is free money for them .
YaBassa Champion Author Michigan Posts:2,425 Points:516,125 Joined:Nov 2011	Message Posted: Oct 22, 2012 10:11:08 AM Ignore YaBassa Report Abuse Cut the Pentagon's budget and raise taxes on Millionaires and Billionaires.
APlus Champion Author San Antonio Posts:3,913 Points:990,470 Joined:Apr 2007	Message Posted: Oct 22, 2012 9:32:58 AM Ignore APlus Report Abuse It will be near impossible to replace 50% of our petroleum products with renewable sources in one year! This is good for research but doesn't need to be so fast or drastic. This is a big waste of our money in my opinion doing it this way - except President Obama may only have one year left - which is probably why it is being done this way! This is dumb and idiotic!
APlus Champion Author San Antonio Posts:3,913 Points:990,470 Joined:Apr 2007	Message Posted: Oct 22, 2012 9:30:50 AM Ignore APlus Report Abuse Use our tax dollars wisely!
MrDeath666 Champion Author Houston Posts:1,611 Points:243,215 Joined:Sep 2012	Message Posted: Oct 22, 2012 9:04:28 AM Ignore MrDeath666 Report Abuse Just wasting taxpayer money to be politically correct.
badbonita Champion Author Syracuse Posts:6,219 Points:1,352,735 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Oct 22, 2012 8:49:22 AM Ignore badbonita Report Abuse It would be great if the military would be able to change over to biofuels as long as a couple things were to happen - (1) the price was competitive with fossil fuels and (2) when the military is in the field, it was easily accessible. In the Middle East, they're having enough trouble getting fossil fuels for their vehicles, how much harder (and dangerous)would transporting biofuels be.
GingoutMD Champion Author Maryland Posts:3,495 Points:713,305 Joined:Jan 2010	Message Posted: Oct 22, 2012 8:43:41 AM Ignore GingoutMD Report Abuse Many of our military personnel in the Iraq and Afgan wars died solely to protect and/or ship the needed fuel for our vehicles while in hostile territory. That needs to change. The military needs to find ways to fuel their vehicles using resources local to their activity.
ooohgas Sophomore Author Ohio Posts:215 Points:294,560 Joined:Jul 2011	Message Posted: Oct 22, 2012 8:32:00 AM Ignore ooohgas Report Abuse Stupid!
ClarkSC Champion Author South Carolina Posts:3,073 Points:1,010,430 Joined:May 2010	Message Posted: Oct 22, 2012 8:09:13 AM Ignore ClarkSC Report Abuse What happen to the military using seawater?
peabeax55 All-Star Author Atlanta Posts:713 Points:185,515 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Oct 22, 2012 8:06:11 AM Ignore peabeax55 Report Abuse Grants, you mean my hard earned taxpayer money, I mean Bernanke's printed money going to more research. Have a dang X-prize contest between creative, motivated, innovative groups who get minimal seed money. The more private involvement, the better. The results will astound us all and we won't see them in bankruptcy court after wasting $500 million.
gfox4810 Champion Author Kalamazoo Posts:1,181 Points:394,775 Joined:Jul 2011	Message Posted: Oct 22, 2012 8:01:55 AM Ignore gfox4810 Report Abuse good
sabre75 Champion Author Florida Posts:1,663 Points:340,395 Joined:May 2012	Message Posted: Oct 22, 2012 7:56:43 AM Ignore sabre75 Report Abuse Need some more research.
orphancarguyPE Champion Author PEI Posts:3,843 Points:734,015 Joined:Jan 2011	Message Posted: Oct 22, 2012 7:53:41 AM Ignore orphancarguyPE Report Abuse MAC48 has the military concern pegged. The supply lines are very long, and the right biofuels (not just Ethanol alcohol, and not fryer oil either, but bio-sourcing of actual gasoline and diesel and aviation fuel 'no modification required' drop-ins) go a long way to reducing strategic dependence. Whether you get gasoline (octane) from catalyzing crude oil or a near chemical equivalent like butanol from catalyzing other materials doesn't really matter, as long as you can use the gasoline/butanol/other compound just like gasoline. As a very large customer, the contracts can create real world economies of scale immediately.
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ktyson13 Champion Author Maryland Posts:1,541 Points:396,325 Joined:Aug 2010	Message Posted: Oct 22, 2012 7:09:35 AM Ignore ktyson13 Report Abuse another government giveaway
brbts Champion Author Charlotte Posts:3,633 Points:774,415 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Oct 22, 2012 7:09:22 AM Ignore brbts Report Abuse Good - let them put their money where their mouths are - let them lead by example for a CHANGE!
blupupher Champion Author Houston Posts:3,545 Points:747,070 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Oct 22, 2012 7:08:25 AM Ignore blupupher Report Abuse makes sense they use the most, but biofuels are a scam for the most part.
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Luckylindy Champion Author Milwaukee Posts:4,509 Points:1,126,095 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Oct 22, 2012 6:42:41 AM Ignore Luckylindy Report Abuse Would be cheaper to set up their own strategic reserve.
WonderfulMI Champion Author Michigan Posts:11,642 Points:1,785,935 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Oct 22, 2012 6:42:28 AM Ignore WonderfulMI Report Abuse Not only do we already spend more on military spending than the rest of the World spends, but Romney will spend even more still, while at the same time cutting taxes and reducing the deficit. Is this magic or what?
grandpadon28110 Champion Author Charlotte Posts:4,711 Points:1,141,335 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Oct 22, 2012 6:38:40 AM Ignore grandpadon28110 Report Abuse Go.
pscamp Champion Author Ottawa Posts:3,270 Points:474,160 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Oct 22, 2012 6:37:16 AM Ignore pscamp Report Abuse Really??
Joeski1 Champion Author New Jersey Posts:9,992 Points:1,741,610 Joined:Dec 2004	Message Posted: Oct 22, 2012 6:29:13 AM Ignore Joeski1 Report Abuse US gov't buy loads of fuel with money borrowed from china to fight and protect foreign countries that are anti american mostly while US folks suffer from high costs for food and homeheating oil.
el_fr Champion Author Massachusetts Posts:3,332 Points:743,725 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Oct 22, 2012 6:28:46 AM Ignore el_fr Report Abuse Waste of our money
Palantas All-Star Author Indianapolis Posts:803 Points:413,695 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Oct 22, 2012 6:26:48 AM Ignore Palantas Report Abuse Someone's making money.
RichWLIN Champion Author Indiana Posts:4,089 Points:637,890 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Oct 22, 2012 6:18:30 AM Ignore RichWLIN Report Abuse B.S.
wrunner Champion Author Virginia Posts:4,440 Points:1,135,610 Joined:Dec 2009	Message Posted: Oct 22, 2012 6:13:25 AM Ignore wrunner Report Abuse Shop for all kinds of fuel, not just biofuels.
yardslave Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:2,549 Points:595,830 Joined:Dec 2005	Message Posted: Oct 22, 2012 6:10:38 AM Ignore yardslave Report Abuse Waste of money...
wendy1john32 Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:1,757 Points:1,054,745 Joined:Jul 2009	Message Posted: Oct 22, 2012 6:09:21 AM Ignore wendy1john32 Report Abuse Glad to hear they're shopping but I hope they don't waste money
TXRanger09 Champion Author Dallas Posts:2,506 Points:891,175 Joined:May 2009	Message Posted: Oct 22, 2012 6:08:13 AM Ignore TXRanger09 Report Abuse 130 million barrels of fuel? A little over 365,000 barrels a day. Yeah, they need a better idea.
7SPEEDY7 Champion Author Flint Posts:1,286 Points:604,700 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Oct 22, 2012 5:59:52 AM Ignore 7SPEEDY7 Report Abuse Interesting!!!
FPLREP Champion Author Virginia Posts:8,256 Points:2,447,275 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Oct 22, 2012 5:58:21 AM Ignore FPLREP Report Abuse "Just think, the more McDonald's fries you buy, the more bio-fuel available for those new F-22 Raptors. " Maybe they should rename the planes the "BigMacs".
George0446 Veteran Author Massachusetts Posts:498 Points:230,185 Joined:Apr 2012	Message Posted: Oct 22, 2012 5:47:54 AM Ignore George0446 Report Abuse Idiots! Government is spending sacred tax payer money. It should be done as efficiently as possible. The free market is the one to choose the winners and losers in Biofuels.
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epf Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:6,329 Points:1,890,380 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Oct 22, 2012 5:36:44 AM Ignore epf Report Abuse It should be the government experimenting with new ideas, they have critical mass.
SUPERSTEVIEO Champion Author Quebec Posts:3,523 Points:787,115 Joined:Oct 2010	Message Posted: Oct 22, 2012 5:28:30 AM Ignore SUPERSTEVIEO Report Abuse is this a part of election platform?
TravelinMan52 Champion Author Augusta Posts:1,920 Points:962,670 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Oct 22, 2012 4:55:45 AM Ignore TravelinMan52 Report Abuse A good platform to use biofuels, for sure...