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Gas drilling studies funded by nonprofits

Tennessean / Associated Press -- Industry officials say charity work biased; proponents argue need

Citizens groups and nonprofits around the nation are asking questions about environmental and health impacts of natural gas hydraulic fracturing, and Pennsylvania charities are funding much of the debate, here and in other states.

Foundations from Philadelphia to Pittsburgh have provided more than $19 million for gas-drilling-related grants since 2009, according to an Associated Press review of charity data. The money has paid for scientific studies, films, radio programs, websites and even trout fishing groups that monitor water quality.

The recipients of Heinz grants have a wide range of views. Some take no official position or just want better oversight, while others are clearly opposed to drilling.

For example, Earth

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Submitted Oct 09, 2012 By: DellDude2

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honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,643 Points:1,611,470 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Oct 15, 2012 5:41:04 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse LeEC: lol. Good point though.
drpepperTX Champion Author Texas Posts:8,950 Points:753,185 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Oct 11, 2012 9:44:34 AM Ignore drpepperTX Report Abuse $19,000,000 spent on studies and no conclusive contamination yet.
LetemEatCake Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:5,609 Points:1,206,580 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 11:25:17 PM Ignore LetemEatCake Report Abuse Well, you know if Big Oil/Gas is screaming, these non-profit are doing something right!
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MAC48 Champion Author Dallas Posts:1,549 Points:767,755 Joined:Dec 2006	Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 12:28:27 AM Ignore MAC48 Report Abuse It would be nice if all studies were required to disclose who provided the funding for the study. It would also be nice if all study funders had to disclose from whom the funding was initially received if the funding entity is not a private person. This would help readers and users of any study in their determination of the validity a study.
Quick68 Champion Author Columbus Posts:8,238 Points:1,227,750 Joined:Dec 2009	Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 12:11:44 AM Ignore Quick68 Report Abuse All nonprofit Foundations are funded by the taxpayers.
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libertyut Champion Author Utah Posts:1,355 Points:292,600 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 12:04:13 AM Ignore libertyut Report Abuse drill baby drill. Don't need to study it.
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obimerrill Champion Author Cincinnati Posts:1,445 Points:290,690 Joined:Jul 2012	Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 12:03:41 AM Ignore obimerrill Report Abuse Pot calling the kettle black...???
N5EXY Champion Author Austin Posts:5,502 Points:1,512,030 Joined:Jul 2004	Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 12:02:28 AM Ignore N5EXY Report Abuse Keep the gummint out of it.
jrsva Champion Author Virginia Posts:9,862 Points:1,614,200 Joined:Jan 2006	Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 12:02:12 AM Ignore jrsva Report Abuse “. . . protests from some in the gas drilling industry, who claim there’s bias in the campaigns.” And there is no bias in ‘studies’ funded by the oil and gas industry? Gimme a break.
joel27nc Champion Author Raleigh Posts:10,547 Points:1,860,320 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 12:01:53 AM Ignore joel27nc Report Abuse Are they looking for some profits?
goodbuy Champion Author Michigan Posts:7,673 Points:1,423,555 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 12:01:11 AM Ignore goodbuy Report Abuse I think what all of care about is safety.
carpenter4u Champion Author Virginia Posts:2,436 Points:617,895 Joined:Jul 2011	Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 11:58:52 PM Ignore carpenter4u Report Abuse Is the results one sided
bonzoonfmb Champion Author Florida Posts:1,792 Points:645,785 Joined:Feb 2010	Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 11:55:31 PM Ignore bonzoonfmb Report Abuse Better that taxpayer money.
SavALot Champion Author Virginia Beach Posts:8,479 Points:1,713,110 Joined:Apr 2005	Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 11:54:58 PM Ignore SavALot Report Abuse oh this isn't really a surprise at all
SandeeC Champion Author Ontario Posts:2,998 Points:461,230 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 11:54:14 PM Ignore SandeeC Report Abuse Someone's got to do it - if the government won't.
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TIGERPAW46 Champion Author Florida Posts:7,136 Points:1,357,630 Joined:Mar 2004	Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 11:47:44 PM Ignore TIGERPAW46 Report Abuse Both sides have obvious opposing views with some variability among the organizations being privately funded to perform the studies. There is some validity to the Shale coalition, claiming the private funding is mostly given to groups naturally opposed to shale oil development due to their concerns. If you criticize the oil co. of bias then you have to consider Environmental concern groups of possible bias also. The interpretation of data is frequently skewed by personal bias of the observer. All the General public can do is try to weigh the majority of the data from the most unbiased reliable sources, then try & make a correct judgement. You will find the most extensive supposed unbiased scientific studies come to one conclusion only to be reversed 10 or 20 yrs later with other similarly valid studies. Anyone with some age & knowledge can verify this fact.
PizzaMon Champion Author Philadelphia Posts:5,134 Points:1,863,405 Joined:Jun 2006	Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 11:47:42 PM Ignore PizzaMon Report Abuse Sounds biased.
dabbadu Champion Author New York Posts:1,056 Points:662,505 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 11:44:07 PM Ignore dabbadu Report Abuse so?
Ken2OD Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:9,077 Points:1,972,915 Joined:Dec 2005	Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 11:41:49 PM Ignore Ken2OD Report Abuse There will always be two sides to every issue.
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lucky69 Champion Author Austin Posts:2,766 Points:1,469,440 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 11:33:57 PM Ignore lucky69 Report Abuse funded by non-profits to make money?@?!
RoadKing95 Champion Author San Jose Posts:20,569 Points:3,605,190 Joined:May 2003	Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 11:33:14 PM Ignore RoadKing95 Report Abuse drz614 wrote; >>remember this when u purchase companies products and when voting. everyone has a spin these days including bloggers.<< Had you bothered to actually read and comprehend the article you might have seen this snippet "The foundation, which is not affiliated with the company of the same name," And for those posting about follow the money and they have an agenda, how about something concrete to say instead of innuendo? Other than trying to protect people, what is it you think they have to gain here? It is more than obvious what Marcellus Shale Coalition has to gain.
mstearno Champion Author Dayton Posts:8,075 Points:1,733,165 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 11:31:45 PM Ignore mstearno Report Abuse sure they are
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RBob Champion Author Portland Posts:3,379 Points:2,348,850 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 11:28:59 PM Ignore RBob Report Abuse Someone needs to be doing oversight. Congress sure is not.
AC-302 Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:26,597 Points:2,904,045 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 11:28:39 PM Ignore AC-302 Report Abuse I think I agree that they shouldn't take sides, they should just want good oversight of the process and permits. It's hard to say whether hydraulic fracturing is the cause, since the gas is ususally far beneath the water table. I'd be more inclined to believe the well casing failed, rather than the gas and water were mixing. Oh, and hydrualic fracturing has been used for over 50 years to stimulate oil and gas wells. If it was such a problem, why didn't we hear about it before?
milespergallon Champion Author Illinois Posts:9,754 Points:1,910,310 Joined:Feb 2007	Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 11:27:01 PM Ignore milespergallon Report Abuse I don't think there is anything worthwhile commenting. $19 million is a proverbial drop in the bucket
walkingtall Champion Author Toronto Posts:4,004 Points:1,122,655 Joined:Nov 2004	Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 11:25:29 PM Ignore walkingtall Report Abuse Gas drilling studies funded by nonprofits and each has an agenda.
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mcmonsta Champion Author Honolulu Posts:3,232 Points:819,520 Joined:Sep 2009	Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 11:14:23 PM Ignore mcmonsta Report Abuse isn't there always 2 sides to an argument?
Bubba44612 Champion Author Ohio Posts:7,401 Points:1,878,055 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 11:14:14 PM Ignore Bubba44612 Report Abuse We all get screwed by fracking. When the water is polluted it is all over.
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splitrman Champion Author Victoria Posts:1,325 Points:317,515 Joined:Jun 2012	Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 11:00:41 PM Ignore splitrman Report Abuse It's great that non profits are getting involved. To bad the government does'nt think research into possible risks is important.